NEBRASKA REAL ESTATE COMMISSION

December 11, 2002

Staybridge Suites             Staybridge Room                  Lincoln, NE


Opening

Chairperson Gale convened a meeting of the Nebraska Real Estate Commission at 9:03 a.m. on December 11, 2002, in the Staybridge Room of the Staybridge Suites, located at 2701 Fletcher Avenue in Lincoln, Nebraska. All of the members of the Real Estate Commission were present. Also present were Director Les Tyrrell, Deputy Director for Education Teresa Hoffman, Deputy Director for Enforcement Terry Mayrose, and Administrative Assistant Heidi Burklund. Abbie Widger, Special Assistant Attorney General and Counsel to the Commission, was present for the stipulation and consent orders and the motion to dismiss.

Notice of Meeting (Adopt Agenda)

Director Tyrrell presented a Public Notice and Proofs of Publication thereof relating to this Meeting, all of which are attached to and made a part of these Minutes. Chairperson Gale reported that all Commissioners had been notified of the Meeting simultaneously, in writing, and that a proposed Tentative Agenda accompanied the notification.

Chairperson Gale pointed out to those in attendance that a APublic Copy@ of the materials being used during the Meeting was available to the public on the Counsel table in the Meeting Room, and that the procedures followed were in accordance with the Open Meetings Law. Chairperson Gale asked that guests sign the guest list.

Director Tyrrell noted that Agenda Item 5a had been added since the Tentative Agenda was mailed to the Commissioners.

After review of the Final Agenda, a motion was made by Wiebusch and seconded by Strand to adopt the Final Agenda as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Minutes of October 23, 2002

The Minutes of the Commission Meeting held on October 23, 2002, were considered.

After review, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Poskochil to approve the Minutes as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Receipts and Expenditures Reports for October and November

Director Tyrrell presented the Receipts and Expenditures Reports for October and November. A copy of said report is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Regarding the October report, Director Tyrrell noted that there was nothing unusual to report in Receipts or Expenditures. The Cash Fund Balance as of October 31, 2002, was $511,122.02, which compared to a Cash Fund Balance of $426,443.13 on October 31, 2001.

Regarding the November report, Director Tyrrell noted the following: in Receipts Category 7522, Promotional Lands, approximately $11,500 came from renewals submitted early by Fairfield Resorts. Expenditures Category 4211, Postage Expense, was approximately double the budgeted amount because of the trust account manual update mailing; Category 4215, Publication and Printing, included $9500 to print the license law manual update; Category 4311, Office Supplies Expense, reflected a credit for returned mailing labels; and Category 4414, Education Services, and Category 4731, State-Owned Transportation, showed no expenditures because the November billings were received late.

The Cash Fund Balance as of November 30, 2002, was $718,968.07, which compared to a Cash Fund Balance of $536,847.63 on November 30, 2001. The balance was higher because deposited renewal receipts were approximately $80,000.00 ahead of November 30, 2001.

After discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Strand to file the October and November Receipts and Expenditures Reports for audit. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

 

Renewal Report

Director Tyrrell presented a Renewal Report, which showed renewals as of December 10, 2002. A copy of said report is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Director Tyrrell noted that renewed licenses were approximately the same percentages as last year.

Commissioner Strand asked why the income was up so much on the November Receipts and Expenditures Reports when there was no change in renewals. Director Tyrrell said it was a matter of timing, because the renewals came in more quickly and were deposited earlier.

No action was necessary on this report.

Specialized Registrations

Retirement Community Registration - Pacific Springs Village

Director Tyrrell presented a Retirement Community Registration for Pacific Springs Village. A copy of said registration is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Following discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Johnson to approve the registration as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Non-Resident Licenses and Resident Licenses Issued to Persons Holding Licenses in Other Jurisdictions Report

Deputy Director Hoffman presented for ratification the Non-Resident Licenses and Resident Licenses Issued to Persons Holding Licenses in Other Jurisdictions Report, a copy of which is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

After review, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Shepard to ratify issuance of the licenses as set forth in the report. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

License Recognition Agreement with Washington

Deputy Director Hoffman presented a copy of the proposed License Recognition Agreement with Washington. A copy of said agreement is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Deputy Director Hoffman noted that it was a typical agreement, which will allow active Nebraska licensees to obtain reciprocal Washington licenses after passing the Washington portion of the examination, and allow dual license holders to meet continuing education requirements in their resident jurisdiction only.

After discussion, a motion was made by Wiebusch and seconded by Moline to enter into the License Recognition Agreement with Washington. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Examination Reports for October and November

Deputy Director Hoffman presented for ratification the Examination Reports for October and November, copies of which are attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

After review, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Wiebusch to ratify the October and November Reports for the purpose of issuing licenses. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Real Estate Education Matters

Pre-License Education Instructor Approval

Deputy Director Hoffman presented for ratification the Pre-License Education Instructor Approval Report, a copy of which is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Continuing Education Activity Approval

Deputy Director Hoffman presented for ratification the Continuing Education Activity Approval Report, a copy of which is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Continuing Education Instructor Approval

Deputy Director Hoffman presented for ratification the Continuing Education Instructor Approval Report, a copy of which is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

After discussion, a motion was made by Wiebusch and seconded by Poskochil to ratify the reports. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Pending Sworn Complaints and Investigative Matters

Director Tyrrell presented a Summary Report of the pending complaints, which included a list of licensees presently under disciplinary action or on appeal. A copy of said report is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

No action was necessary on this report.

The following Sworn Complaints and Investigative Matters were presented to the Commission:

Item A Complaint #2002-030 - Janet Stephens vs. Darcie Prellwitz Dufoe

Prior to discussion of this matter, Commissioner Moline recused himself, thereby nullifying any potential conflict of interest. Deputy Director Mayrose presented the alleged violations and investigative report to the Commission and, when necessary, answered questions on this matter.

After being advised of the results of the investigation and discussion, a motion was made by Wiebusch and seconded by Poskochil that the Complaint be dismissed without prejudice. Motion carried with Johnson, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye, and with Moline not participating or voting, having recused himself, thereby nullifying any potential conflict of interest.

Item B Complaint #2002-031 - Leonard & Teresa Hilger vs. Marvin Udell Wolfe

Deputy Director Mayrose presented the alleged violations and investigative report to the Commission and, when necessary, answered questions on this matter.

After being advised of the results of the investigation and discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Strand that the Complaint be dismissed without prejudice, and that Director Tyrrell be instructed to send a letter to the Respondent expressing the Commission=s concerns. Motion carried with Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye, and with Johnson voting nay.

Item C Complaint #2002-032 - Danny R. Chafa vs. Rosemary Nicholson

Deputy Director Mayrose presented the alleged violations and investigative report to the Commission and, when necessary, answered questions on this matter.

After being advised of the results of the investigation and discussion, a motion was made by Poskochil and seconded by Wiebusch that the Complaint be dismissed without prejudice. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Item D Complaint #2002-033 - Earl & LeeAnn Stueve vs. Carolyn Van Horne

Deputy Director Mayrose presented the alleged violations and investigative report to the Commission and, when necessary, answered questions on this matter.

After being advised of the results of the investigation and discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Johnson that the Complaint be set for Hearing on alleged violations 1 and 3 in the conclusion of the investigative report. After further discussion, Moline proposed a friendly amendment to the motion to include an alleged violation of Title 299, Chapter 5-003.25, which was accepted by Johnson. The amended motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Presentation of Stipulation and Consent Orders

Complaint #2002-022, Brett & Nancy Moore vs. Debra K. Carlson

Counsel Widger presented a stipulation and consent order in the matter of Complaint #2002-022, Brett & Nancy Moore vs. Debra K. Carlson. A copy of said order is attached to and made a part of these Minutes. Ms. Carlson was present with her attorney, Ms. Steffi Swanson.

Counsel Widger reviewed the circumstances involved and noted the provisions of the order, which had been signed by Ms. Carlson. The order specified a censure of Ms. Carlson=s salesperson=s license, and that Ms. Carlson make a written apology to the Complainants. Counsel Widger noted that Ms. Carlson=s attorney had suggested the written apology, not Commission staff.

Ms. Swanson noted that Ms. Carlson was sorry for her actions, had learned from them, and agreed to the censure in order to put this matter behind her and move forward.

After discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Poskochil to enter into the order as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Complaints #2002-024 and 2002-044, Allan Arp, Susan Arp, and
Allan Arp as Agent in Fact for Virginia Wright vs. Richard Wardell

Deputy Director Mayrose presented a stipulation and consent order in the matter of Complaints #2002-024 and 2002-044, Allan Arp, Susan Arp, and Allan Arp as Agent in Fact for Virginia Wright vs. Richard Wardell. A copy of said order is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Deputy Director Mayrose reviewed the circumstances involved and noted the provisions of the order, which had been signed by Mr. Wardell. The order specified a censure of Mr. Wardell=s broker=s license, plus six hours of additional continuing education, consisting of 3 hours in agency law and 3 hours in license law, to be completed within sixty days.

After discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Johnson to enter into the order as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Hearings

Complaint #2002-016, Commission vs. Steven Robert Evers, and
Complaint #2002-017, Commission vs. Nathan P. Dodge, Jr. - Continued

The Hearing in Complaint #2002-016, Commission vs. Steven Robert Evers, and Complaint
#2002-017, Commission vs. Nathan P. Dodge, Jr., was continued.

Informal Special Appearances

There were no Informal Special Appearances scheduled for this Meeting.

Motion to Dismiss Petition for Review from H. Michael Cutler

Counsel Widger presented a motion to dismiss H. Michael Cutler=s appeal, because the appeal was made after the statutory deadline. A copy of said motion is attached to and made a part of these Minutes. Counsel Widger gave a brief history of Mr. Cutler=s situation. Theodore R. Boecker, attorney for Mr. Cutler, was present.

Counsel Boecker said that he had an affidavit to make a part of the record which affirmed that Mr. Cutler did not receive a copy of Director Tyrrell=s rejection letter on July 26, but on July 30. The attached receipt was signed by Mr. Sandro Olivos, who was employed as a doorman at Mr. Cutler=s residence in Florida, but he was employed by the building, not by Mr. Cutler. He was not authorized to receive mail for Mr. Cutler, but he signed for it and stuck it in Mr. Cutler=s box. Mr. Cutler received it on July 30. The affidavit also stated that Mr. Cutler sought reinstatement of his license. There were two complaints filed against Mr. Cutler which were not pursued because he was on inactive status. Mr. Cutler was seeking reinstatement in order to have a public hearing on the complaints, and preserve his name by getting a finding of no wrongdoing. He was in litigation with the individuals, which was not actionable. Counsel Boecker said that Mr. Cutler filed his appeal within thirty days of actual receipt of the rejection, and wanted an opportunity to have a hearing on the merits of the underlying complaints, to have them found without basis. It was not in the Commission=s rules, but Counsel Boecker said there was an analogy on petitions served outside of the state in statute which said they had to serve the person. If service was done by certified mail, Lydick vs. Smith, a 1978 Supreme Court decision, said the receipt must be signed by the addressee or have other evidence of personal service.

Chairperson Gale asked if Counsel Boecker had an affidavit from the doorman. Counsel Boecker said no. Chairperson Gale said the affidavit was just Mr. Cutler making allegations, and was hearsay regarding the conduct of a third party. Counsel Boecker asserted that it was the state=s burden to prove perfected service, and that the person who signed for it was authorized to accept service. Chairperson Gale said there was a presumption of service with certified mail, because the Post Office would not let just anybody accept certified mail. Chairperson Gale said he could not go get someone else=s mail. Someone had to claim it on behalf of the person. Counsel Boecker said he did not think that was what case law stated. In a Florida case, it was determined that an attempt to serve via a doorman was insufficient service, which was analogous to a doorman who accepted it of his own volition. Counsel Boecker said he could seek leave to obtain an affidavit from Mr. Olivos.

Chairperson Gale said that Counsel Boecker was making his final argument, and the Commission had not even seen the affidavit yet. Chairperson Gale said he would not receive it into evidence. Counsel Widger said she had no objection to the service part of the affidavit, but she did object to the affidavit as it addressed the merits of the case, i.e. the letter denying the renewal and the merits of the complaints against Mr. Cutler. Chairperson Gale asked Counsel Widger to mark the objected portions of the affidavit, and initial and date her notations. Counsel Boecker then reviewed the notated affidavit.

Chairperson Gale said he sustained Counsel Widger=s objections to the affidavit, and accepted into evidence only those portions of the affidavit to which there was no objection, because the only issue to be addressed today was service. Chairperson Gale reviewed the exhibits. Exhibit 1 was the original receipt for the certified letter. Exhibit 2 was the letter from Director Tyrrell to Mr. Cutler, dated July 23, 2002. Exhibit 3 was Mr. Cutler=s affidavit. Exhibit 4 was Mr. Cutler=s application for renewal, with attachments. Counsel Widger said that Commission staff would maintain the exhibits. All exhibits were received into evidence by Chairperson Gale, who initialed and dated the copies of the exhibits. Counsel Widger noted that staff would substitute the originals for copies where possible.

Counsel Boecker said he had no objection to Exhibits 2 and 4, but he did object to Exhibit 1, for foundation and relevance.

Chairperson Gale reiterated that arguments today would be limited to the issue of service.

Counsel Widger noted that service was done by certified mail. The applicable statute said that provided evidence of individuals receiving notice, and the date of delivery. The purpose of a summons was to notify an individual of the commencement of litigation, and the date the receipt was signed was the date of notice of litigation. Counsel Widger noted that Nebraska licensees signed an affidavit that they were subject to the laws of the State of Nebraska, and that the laws of Florida were not relevant. The parties were here to determine whether Mr. Cutler was timely served. The date of delivery was consistently held as the date when time commenced running for filing petitions and answers. Counsel Widger said the Commission could presume delivery. In the case of Heithoff vs. the Board of Education, it was held that certified mail signed by other than the individual started the timeline. The court had determined that the purpose of certified mail was to notify the individual of action, and the individual did receive it even though the receipt was signed by someone else, like this certified mail. The date of the receipt signature was used to calculate time frames.

Chairperson Gale asked for clarification that a third party had signed for certified mail, and delivered it to the teacher later, but the court still ruled that the date of the receipt started the clock. Counsel Widger said that was correct. The court stated, with regard to service of summons, that the postal receipt showed that the transmittal was addressed appropriately, was received by the office, and was signed by someone, and that was appropriate delivery of summons.

Counsel Boecker said that his recollection of that case was that the receiver was an authorized agent for receipt, which was not the situation in this case. Counsel Boecker said there was a difference between calling attention to a lawsuit and denying an application. Counsel Boecker said he was not disputing the Commission=s jurisdiction, but was just saying that the actual receipt date should start the clock. If the other person did not give it to you for several days, you did not know when it was received, or when the clock started. Counsel Boecker said Mr. Cutler should have 30 days from actual receipt, because he did not know when the appeal time started running. Another analogy was that, in restitution actions, if the landlord sent a 3-day notice to quit, they could not assume the date it would get there. It had to be three days from the date of receipt. Counsel Boecker asked that the Commission either apply the strict rule of 30 days from actual receipt, or excuse the one day late for addressing it. If an individual was served, and a lawsuit was not filed within 30 days, judges often gave leave to file an answer out of time, which was analogous. Counsel Boecker requested leave that the appeal be allowed to be filed one day out of time, to get to the merits of the complaints. Counsel Boecker said that, in Nebraska law and Supreme Court cases, the statutes proscribing service must be strictly complied with, and the use of mail for service must be strictly observed. Counsel Boecker maintained that the statute said the receipt should be signed by the addressee. He thought the Commission should err on the side of caution, and reiterated that all they wanted to do was have a hearing on the merits of the complaints, to vindicate their name.

Chairperson Gale noted that the notification of refusal was sent by certified and regular mail. The issue of regular mail had not been addressed. Counsel Boecker said that both were in the box at the same time. Chairperson Gale asked if it was at an apartment building or a business office. Counsel Boecker said it was at a condominium building, and the condominiums were like large apartments. Mr. Olivos was analogous to a doorman.

Counsel Widger noted that the appropriate statute allowed service by certified mail, and that licensees subjected themselves to the State of Nebraska laws. The statute applied, and the statutes and regulations allowed for service by certified mail. There was no requirement that the receipt be signed personally by the addressee. The only way to know how to calculate timelines was by the date of delivery. Otherwise, the Commission was always hanging out there waiting without knowing.

Commissioner Moline asked the date Director Tyrrell=s letter was mailed. Counsel Widger said it was the date at the top of the letter, July 23. Commissioner Moline asked for clarification that it was received on July 30. Counsel Boecker said yes.

Commissioner Moline said the rule stated that the timeline started on written receipt by the applicant. Counsel Widger noted that Subsection 2, prior to that sentence, applied. If the Director refused an application, the Commission had to give notice of that fact. If a response was filed by the applicant, it had to be within 30 days after receipt of such notice by the applicant. Commissioner Moline said he was trying to reconcile that the receipt card was signed by someone else. Counsel Widger said that general statutory and case law allowed receipt by anyone over 14 years of age who was mentally competent. The only way to know when the timeline started was by the green receipt card. Courts accepted that date all the time. People could request to file out of time, but the date of delivery was the day the clock started. Courts had consistently construed that date as the date of delivery.

Chairperson Gale asked if the petition for review was mailed from Nebraska or Florida. Counsel Widger said it was messengered from Omaha to Lincoln.

Commissioner Strand asked if the Commission had a history of granting extensions. Counsel Widger said there was no history of extensions, which was why it was brought to the Commission.

Chairperson Gale said that, as an attorney, he agreed with Counsel Widger that it would be a slippery slope of determining when an individual received a letter. Using the date of receipt had a lot of merit. On other hand, as an agency, the Commission had the authority to interpret the rule, and to grant leave to accept the petition late. Chairperson Gale thought accepting the petition one day late was acceptable under general rules of equity, but he would not want to start interpreting receipt as the date the individual actually received it, rather than the date on the card.

Commissioner Poskochil asked about certified mail procedures. Counsel Widger said the rejection was sent by certified mail, return receipt requested. Counsel Widger said that registered mail could only be signed for by the addressee, but that certified mail was provided for in the statute. Commissioner Poskochil asked about the card. Counsel Widger said the green card was attached to the letter by the sender, and after it was signed by the recipient, the recipient kept the letter, and the Post Office sent the green card back to the sender.

Chairperson Gale said that Commissioner Poskochil raised a good point. Chairperson Gale asserted that people usually had to pick up certified mail, and that the affidavit alleged that the certified mail was brought for delivery, and the mail carrier found someone to sign for it. Chairperson Gale said that was different than what he would consider normal practice.

Commissioner Poskochil asked what would happen if an individual was on a 30-day vacation. Counsel Widger said that if the letter was not signed for, it would come back to the Commission. Commissioner Poskochil said that apparently the person who signed for it had authority to accept mail. Commissioner Poskochil asked how the Commission would know when the addressee got it. Counsel Widger said the Commission had to go by the date of delivery on the green card. Commissioner Poskochil thought the Commission might want to use a different kind of service, where the addressee had to sign for it, so the Commission would know when they received it.

Chairperson Gale said there was a presumption of agency from putting a notice in the mailbox. Mr. Cutler had a history of repeatedly refusing to pick up certified mail in the past. Chairperson Gale asked if the doorman went to the Post Office, or somehow managed to sign for it on the spot. Counsel Boecker said the postal person delivered it to the building, and Mr. Olivos signed for it there. Counsel Boecker clarified that was his assumption, and that he did not know for sure, because he was not there. Counsel Boecker said he wanted to address the refusal of mail issue, which was one of the justifications for denial of the renewal application. Counsel Boecker said that Mr. Cutler denied that he refused to pick up certified mail, and that it was tendered to him at his old address. Counsel Widger noted that was the only address Mr. Cutler had given to the Commission.

Chairperson Gale thanked counsel for their arguments, and declared that part of the hearing closed. Chairperson Gale asked if the Commission wanted to offer a motion.

Commissioner Moline asked a point of order, if it would be procedurally correct to move to accept the motion to dismiss. Chairperson Gale said it would be either that or a motion to grant leave to file late. Commissioner Moline asked what would happen if leave were granted. Counsel Widger said there would be a hearing on Mr. Cutler=s refusal to accept certified mail service. Counsel Boecker noted that, for future service, it should be made through Counsel Boecker.

Commissioner Strand asked if granting leave to file late would mean the license was renewed. Counsel Widger said no, because Director Tyrrell refused to accept the renewal on other grounds stated in the July 23 letter. The petition was filed for review on Director Tyrrell=s refusal to accept the renewal, so there would be a hearing regarding Director Tyrrell=s letter.

A motion was made by Moline and seconded by Strand to grant Mr. Cutler leave to file late, for missing the deadline by one day, and to allow a hearing on his petition for review.

Commissioner Moline said he was trying to just look at the issue of filing one day late, and decide what was the fair thing to do. Based on the principle of equity, he wanted to give Mr. Cutler a chance to present his case. Commissioner Moline said that Mr. Cutler was obviously serious, since he hired an attorney.

Commissioner Johnson said that, even if Mr. Cutler received the refusal on the 30th, he still had 27 days to get in his response. Commissioner Johnson thought that was plenty of time to get it in, and questioned why he waited until the last day. Commissioner Wiebusch agreed that Mr. Cutler had plenty of time, and that the date the receipt card was signed was the date the Commission had to go by. Commissioner Wiebusch said she would vote against the motion.

Commissioner Moline said that, at least with attorneys in Lincoln, their calendars were very busy. Attorneys tended to turn things in just before the deadline because they were busy. Commissioner Moline said it appeared counsel was working off of the date of receipt.

Counsel Boecker said he was working off a receipt date of the 30th, not the 26th, because of a different assumption of service. Chairperson Gale noted that the discussion was closed to counsel input.

Commissioner Shepard said he agreed with Commissioner Johnson and Commissioner Wiebusch, and questioned how the Commission could know Mr. Cutler received the notice on the 30th, rather than the 27th or 28th. Commissioner Shepard said he might have received it on the 26th, and agreed that he had plenty of time to do what he needed to do.

Commissioner Poskochil asked if the Commission wanted to consider a better method of delivery, with a better way to know when the document was received by the addressee. Commissioner Strand agreed with Commissioner Poskochil that even with the Nebraska statute on certified mail, he would not want to be held to the date on the receipt card if his 14-year-old signed for a letter and did not give it to him. Commissioner Strand preferred to give some latitude, because it was a pretty sloppy system otherwise.

A vote was taken on the pending motion. Motion carried with Moline, Poskochil, Strand, and Gale voting aye, and with Johnson, Shepard, and Wiebusch voting nay.

Consider Renewal of Examination Agreement with Applied Measurement Professionals, Inc.

Deputy Director Hoffman presented an addendum to the contract with Applied Management Professionals, Inc. (AMP). A copy of said addendum is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Deputy Director Hoffman noted that the addendum would extend the term of the contract through June 30, 2005, and raise the fee to $67.00 per examination administered between July 1, 2003, and June 30, 2005.

Deputy Director Hoffman reviewed the Request for Proposal (RFP) process followed in awarding the original contract to AMP, and the contract renewal options. Director Tyrrell noted that the DAS Materiel Division and the State Risk Manager encouraged the Commission to do multiple-term contracts with renewal options, in the interests of more consistency and better price. Commissioner Poskochil noted that RFPs required a great deal of staff time and analysis. Director Tyrrell reviewed the timeline required to process RFPs for examinations.

After discussion, a motion was made by Johnson and seconded by Wiebusch to enter into the contract addendum with AMP. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Director Tyrrell asked if the Commission wanted to increase the applicant examination fee to cover the additional cost, or whether they wanted to absorb the increase without increasing the fee. The consensus of the Commission was to leave the fee at $115.00 per examination, unless budget circumstances changed.

Consider Proposal to Include Specialized Registrations in Database

Director Tyrrell presented an exhibit regarding adding specialized registrations to the database in the office and on-line. A copy of said exhibit is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Director Tyrrell noted that the price for the system upgrade would be $6,250.00, which was negotiated with staff, and which was available in the budget. Director Tyrrell recommended that the Commission make the change.

After discussion, a motion was made by Moline and seconded by Strand to approve the expenditure necessary to include specialized registrations to the database. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Legislative Matters

Proposed Legislation to Amend the Retirement Communities
and Subdivisions Act - Senator Dennis Byars to introduce

Director Tyrrell reported that Sen. Byars would introduce the legislation to amend the Retirement Communities and Subdivisions Act. Director Tyrrell noted that the language requested by Mr. Groenewold during the Commission=s discussion was included in the final draft, and staff had no problems with it.

After discussion, a motion was made by Wiebusch and seconded by Moline to have the draft introduced in the Legislature as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Proposed Legislation to Require Criminal History
Record Checks - Senator Dennis Byars to introduce

Director Tyrrell reported that Sen. Byars would introduce the legislation to require criminal history record checks for applicants.

Director Tyrrell noted that the process took much longer than initially thought, and that the Commission received final language approval from the FBI on December 4. Fingerprint cards would be mailed to each applicant, which would then be submitted to the Nebraska State Patrol regardless of resident jurisdiction. Applicants from outside Nebraska would not be required to have a criminal history check in their resident jurisdiction, but they would have to submit fingerprint cards to the Nebraska State Patrol.

In discussion with Sen. Byars, he noted that the teachers association had tried to implement background checks a number of years ago. During discussion in the Legislature, it was brought out that it was just for new teachers, which raised the question of what was to be done about existing teachers. Director Tyrrell told Sen. Byars that he thought the Commission=s intent was to just require background checks of original applicants. Director Tyrrell asked how the Commission wanted to handle it, if it came up.

Commissioner Moline asked if the Commission wanted to require a background check on licensees every 2-3 years, and maybe do checks on 1/3 of the licensees each year. Counsel Widger noted that renewals were required each year, which contained an affidavit regarding criminal convictions and lawsuits. Counsel Widger observed that the real estate industry was pretty small in Nebraska, and that staff heard about things that happened with licensees even if they were not reported on renewal forms.

Chairperson Gale noted that a lot of grandfathering went into new laws, and that would be very comfortable for legislators. He preferred to not require background checks for renewing licensees, unless that was the only choice at the time to get the legislation passed.

Commissioner Strand was briefly excused from the meeting at 12:06 p.m., and rejoined the meeting at 12:08 p.m.

Commissioner Johnson noted that Iowa had a two-year license renewal term, and asked if the Commission had considered that option. Director Tyrrell said that the Commission looked at it when the continuing education requirement began. Errors and Omissions insurance had caused, to some degree, a move away from multiple-year insurance policies. Most states go to a multiple-year term if their numbers are high, but that was not the case in Nebraska.

Chairperson Gale asked for input from the Nebraska REALTORS7 Association. Perre Neilan, representing the Nebraska Realtors7 Association, noted that the Association was on record as supporting requiring background checks for new applicants. It would be a new wrinkle if existing members were required to get them too. Mr. Neilan said he thought the Bar Association had a requirement for background checks. Counsel Widger said she remembered being fingerprinted for her Bar Association application, but did not know how the fingerprints were used.

Commissioner Poskochil asked who would do the fingerprinting. Director Tyrrell said there was a place on the form for the signature of the law enforcement agent who fingerprinted the applicant.

Director Tyrrell noted that clarifying language was added at the top of page 3 regarding broker and salesperson examinations.

A motion was made by Moline and seconded by Strand to have the draft introduced in the Legislature as presented. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

Information Matters

Report on Discussion with American Society
of Home Inspectors Representative

Director Tyrrell reported on his findings regarding licensing home inspectors. He looked in the Omaha phone book to find inspection companies. Many of those companies listed were members of the American Society of Home Inspectors (ASHI). On his first call at random, he reached Mark Byrd, who spearheaded the effort to license home inspectors through the Legislature. A legislative fiscal analyst determined that if a licensing program was to be done for a reasonable fee, they would need 188 licensees statewide to make it feasible. There were only 50 in the state at the time. Mr. Byrd said the home inspectors did not want to be licensed under the Real Estate Commission, because there could be conflicts of interest. Director Tyrrell said he understood, and indicated Secretary of State Gale=s interest in possibly licensing them under the Secretary of State=s office. Mr. Byrd said he would be willing to talk to Chairperson Gale about it.

Commissioner Wiebusch asked if there were 50 ASHI members, or 50 total inspectors statewide. Commissioner Johnson said he thought it was probably ASHI members. Director Tyrrell said he was not sure.

Commissioner Poskochil noted that, according to the ASHI material he received, South Dakota was the only midwestern state with home inspector licensing. Director Tyrrell said he believed they were licensed under the Real Estate Commission. Deputy Director Hoffman said she did not think South Dakota had even issued licenses yet, because the program was that new. Commissioner Poskochil said the ASHI material indicated which states regulated inspectors, and by whom they were regulated. Commissioner Poskochil asked Director Tyrrell if he had visited with Steve Wadlington, the AAmeriSpec@ representative from Tennessee. Director Tyrrell said no. As a salesperson, Commissioner Poskochil was running into more difficulties with home inspections. Consumers did not know that the home inspector=s liability was just limited to the fee paid; whether they had any recourse for errors; or what training the home inspector might have received. Commissioner Poskochil questioned how far fees could go until the inspections were priced out of reach for consumers.

Chairperson Gale said he did not want a home inspection to be a false reassurance to a buyer if the inspector was not qualified to examine a house, and noted that not all home inspectors were equally qualified. A lot of buyers relied on the home inspection report, and did not read the terms. Chairperson Gale did not know if they needed to be regulated, but felt that there would be more questions raised on this.

Commissioner Poskochil said that home inspectors needed to sit down with the buyer and disclose what the inspector does and does not do, such as that they do not look inside a wall or crawl space, and clarify that the inspection was based on visual inspection only. Consumers needed to understand what they were paying for. Commissioner Poskochil thought the situation was getting to be a big problem.

Commissioner Moline was briefly excused from the meeting at 12:23 p.m., and rejoined the meeting at 12:24 p.m.

Chairperson Gale stated that regulation brought standardization to the process, with similar forms and techniques. Commissioner Poskochil noted that some home inspectors did not want to use the same forms because, according to them, it hindered competition and the provision of better service.

Chairperson Gale said this was a philosophical question, whether to get ahead of the curve or try to resolve a crisis after it happened.

Commissioner Shepard asked what percentage of buyers used home inspectors. Commissioner Poskochil said that, on the offers he wrote, it was probably 95%. Commissioner Johnson said his were probably 80-90%. Commissioner Poskochil said that, for the cost involved, there could be savings if the inspections were done well.

Chairperson Gale was briefly excused from the meeting at 12:27 p.m., and rejoined the meeting at 12:29 p.m.

Director Tyrrell noted that this was preliminary information, and that it seemed the industry may want to be licensed under the Secretary of State=s office. Director Tyrrell said the Commission could decide to support licensing if it was feasible without supporting a specific act.

Commissioner Strand said it would make sense to clarify that an inspection was not insurance, and that buyers would have limited recourse. He was concerned that inspections gave buyers a false sense of security. Director Tyrrell noted that licensees acting as limited buyer=s agents should mention that to their clients. Commissioner Wiebusch said that a lot of them did not know that. Commissioner Strand said it may be an educational issue. Commissioner Wiebusch proposed that an educational article be placed in the Commission Comment. Commissioner Strand thought it might shake the Nebraska REALTORS7 Association a bit. Counsel Widger agreed that it might shake the tree, but that buyer=s agents may need to think about it in the course of doing business. Commissioner Strand noted that the same inspectors were starting to do mold inspections. Commissioner Johnson said that home inspectors were nervous about mold, because every house had some mold. Home inspectors were often recommending environmental experts, and cleanup was expensive.

It was the consensus of the Commission to include a cautionary bulletin in the next Commission Comment regarding the buyer agent duty with regard to inspectors. Chairperson Gale said he would continue a dialogue with the industry, and report back to the Commission.

No action was necessary on this report.

Errors and Omissions Insurance Loss Report - Third Quarter 2002

Director Tyrrell presented the Errors and Omissions Insurance Loss Report - Third Quarter 2002 from Williams Underwriting Group, Inc. (WUG). A copy of said report is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Commissioner Moline said that WUG had the worst customer service of anyone. He could not get information from them. When he requested a loss report for his company, they said they would give him the information for another company too, and did not need that broker to call separately to request it. When he finally received the information he requested, there was a note that they would not give him the other company=s information unless that broker called them. Deputy Director Hoffman noted that most licensees gave very good reports on their interactions with WUG. Commissioner Moline said his request was probably more detailed than the usual licensee=s request, because he wanted broker-specific information regarding litigating claims. Commissioner Moline requested that Director Tyrrell have a heart-to-heart conversation with them, rather than send a letter about it. Commissioner Moline said he played phone tag with them for months, and had to call Valerie 3-4 times to get the litigation information. Director Tyrrell said he would have discussions with WUG staff, including Mr. Williams, Sr.

No action was necessary on this report.

Trust Account Examination Evaluation - Third Quarter 2002

Director Tyrrell presented the Trust Account Examination Evaluation - Third Quarter 2002 Report. A copy of said report is attached to and made a part of these Minutes.

Director Tyrrell reported that comments were again very positive. He reviewed some of the comments received, and how the situations were handled. Director Tyrrell noted that he encouraged brokers to call if questions arose during exit interviews, so that clarification was made immediately for both the broker and the examiner.

No action was necessary on this report.

Future Meeting Dates

January 29-30, 2003 - Staybridge Suites, Lincoln

March 5-6, 2003 - Staybridge Suites, Lincoln

April 16-17, 2003 - Staybridge Suites, Lincoln

May 28-29, 2003 - Staybridge Suites, Lincoln

Recesses and Adjournment

At 10:18 a.m. on December 11, Chairperson Gale declared a brief recess, and reconvened the meeting at 10:35 a.m.

At 11:34 a.m. on December 11, Chairperson Gale declared a brief recess, and reconvened the meeting at 11:40 a.m.

Commissioner Strand was briefly excused from the meeting at 12:06 p.m., and rejoined the meeting at 12:08 p.m.

Commissioner Moline was briefly excused from the meeting at 12:23 p.m., and rejoined the meeting at 12:24 p.m.

Chairperson Gale was briefly excused from the meeting at 12:27 p.m., and rejoined the meeting at 12:29 p.m.

At 12:43 p.m. on December 11, there being no further business to come before the Commission, a motion was made by Wiebusch and seconded by Johnson that the meeting adjourn. Motion carried with Johnson, Moline, Poskochil, Shepard, Strand, Wiebusch, and Gale voting aye.

I, Les Tyrrell, Director of the Nebraska Real Estate Commission, do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes of the December 11, 2002, meeting of the Nebraska Real Estate Commission were available for inspection on December 24, 2002, in compliance with Section 84-1413(5) R.R.S. 1943, of Nebraska.

Respectfully submitted,
Les Tyrrell
Director

Guests Signing the Guest List

Perre Neilan, Nebraska Realtors7 Association, Lincoln

Harding Collis, NP Dodge, Omaha

Mark Leaders, CBSHOME, Omaha

Debra Carlson, Boyer Young Real Estate, Papillion

Steffi Swanson, Deb Carlson, Bellevue